Wow!!...tren on your third cycle...damn. And you have experience with tren before? Why didn't you try to find something else, like NPP and winny together if your looking for nice, lean and clean gains? The thing is, is that tren is like the icing on the cake as far as gear goes. Once you're there, you pretty much have used thee most powerful of steroids. Where do you go next? Understand my concern? Just lookin out for ya!!
As far as the winny, oral or inj.?...anyway, what I would do is run it the LAST 4-6 weeks...why stop at week 9 when you are still carrying the test to week 10? The benefits of winny at the tail end of your cycle are phenomenal in respect to the SHBG/'freeing-up test' benefits before pct.
As far as pct-clomid AND nolva for four weeks is the best as recommended below.
IF you are gonna run HCG, start week about week 4 with 250iu's 2x/wk. up till pct, and keep taking aromasin OR adex till pct if you utilize HCG, since HCG can have an effect on your estrogen levels.
I think that's about it...chime in someone else if this needs cleaned up!!....my name isn't Tread or Viking!! LOL!!!
The side effects of Halotestin include natural testosterone suppression, and it will be extreme. However, the reason for suppression is a bit of a mystery with this steroid due to an inconsistent suppression of gonadotropins. Despite this fact, it will suppress natural testosterone production significantly, making the inclusion of exogenous testosterone necessary for most men. Those who do not include exogenous testosterone therapy will fall into a low testosterone condition. This will occur regardless of genetic superiority and can come with a host of bothersome symptoms. Regardless of the severity of symptoms, low testosterone is an extremely unhealthy state. Those who include exogenous testosterone will avoid this low level outcome. The form of testosterone you choose is inconsequential. All that matters is that you provide your body with what it needs.
Once the use of Halotestin comes to an end and all exogenous steroidal hormones have cleared the system, natural testosterone production will begin again. Natural recovery assumes no prior low level condition. It further assumes no damage was done to the Hypothalamic-Pituitary-Testicular-Axis (HPTA) due to improper steroid use . While production will begin on its own, levels will not return to normal for several months. For this reason, the implementation of a Post Cycle Therapy (PCT) program is often recommended. This will greatly stimulate natural testosterone production, and ensure you have adequate amounts of testosterone for proper bodily function. It will not return you to normal on its own, this will still take several months, but it will speed up the process and ensure a much smoother recovery.